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Postby **Schlocky** » Wed May 04, 2016 11:37 am

If Man City win the champions league and Liverpool the europa and both finish out of the top 4 who represents the EPL in next season's champions league?

weeman · Postby **weeman** » Wed May 04, 2016 12:30 pm

Schlocky wrote:If Man City win the champions league and Liverpool the europa and both finish out of the top 4 who represents the EPL in next season's champions league?

Having a guess but I'd say (tables staying as they are):

Man City - champions league winners
Leicester - premier league champions
Liverpool - Europa league winners
Spurs - 2nd in prem
Arsenal - 3rd in prem

AVIT75 · Postby **AVIT75** » Wed May 04, 2016 1:35 pm

PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS

- Automatically qualify for the Champions League group stage and are a seeded team.
SECOND

- Automatically qualify for the Champions League group stage, not seeded.
THIRD

- Automatically qualify for the Champions League group stage, not seeded.
FOURTH

- Qualify for the Champions League play-off. However, there is a slim chance the fourth-placed team will be knocked down to the Europa League. It would take the unlikely sequence that sees Manchester City win the Champions League AND finish outside the top four AND Liverpool win the Europa League all at the same time. That would make for five teams in the Champions League (top three plus Manchester City plus Liverpool). If Manchester City finish fourth and win the Champions League they would still automatically make the group stage.
FIFTH

- Qualify for the Europa League group stage UNLESS Manchester City finish fifth and win the Champions League, as the team in fourth would then be knocked down to the Europa League.
SIXTH

- Qualify for the Europa League third qualifying round IF Manchester City finish in the top four OR win the Champions League.
SEVENTH

- Qualify for the Europa League IF Manchester United win the FA Cup AND finish in the top six AND Manchester City finish in the top five.
EIGHTH

- Qualify for the Europa League IF Liverpool win the Europa League AND finish seventh AND Manchester United win the FA Cup and finish in the top six AND Manchester City qualify for the Champions League (by whatever means). Unlikely but still...
CHELSEA AND STOKE CITY

- The two clubs currently occupy ninth and 10th in the Premier League. For them to qualify for the Europa League they would need to finish in the top eight and for the above permutation to take place. Not impossible, but not at all likely.

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FURTHER EXPLANATION...

LEAGUE POSITION

- The Premier League winners will be a top seed in the Champions League group stage, while the second and third placed teams will also make the group stage (seedings are based on past performance in European competition). The team who finishes fourth will have to play a qualifying play-off. There are also three Europa League spots up for grabs and although league position is important, cup success will have a big say.

CUP SUCCESS

- A Champions League win will guarantee a place in the group stage next season, no matter the final league position.

- A Europa League win will guarantee a place in the Champions League play-off round (we're looking at you Liverpool).

- An FA Cup win will guarantee a Europa League group stage position and a League Cup win will guarantee a spot in the Europa League third qualifying round.

FOURTH PLACE

- In the unlikely event that Manchester City win the Champions League AND finish outside the top four AND Liverpool win the Europa League, the team that finish in fourth will not qualify for the Champions League next season. That is because only five teams are allowed in the competition from any one nation (therefore it would be the top three plus Man City plus Liverpool). Furthermore, if Liverpool won the Europa League they could also be bumped up to an automatic group stage place IF the Champions League winner finishes in the top three of their league (very likely).

LEAGUE CUP

- Manchester City won the Capital One Cup so therefore have already guaranteed at least a spot in the Europa League third qualifying round. However, if they qualify for the Champions League (whether through winning the competition or league position) their Europa League spot will go to the next highest finisher who has not already qualified.

FA CUP

- Winners of the FA Cup will go to the Europa League group stage - unless they have already qualified for Europe through other means. Therefore, if Manchester United win the FA Cup but qualify for the Champions League (by finishing in the top four) their Europa League spot is passed on. If Manchester United finish in the top six and win the FA Cup, their Europa League spot is also passed on. If Crystal Palace win the FA Cup, they enter the Europa League and there will be one less place available via league position.

That should clear it up :sleep:

slarty · Postby **slarty** » Wed May 04, 2016 4:23 pm

Yeah, make the Maltese Scouse coont work :lol:

The Elkmaster · Postby **The Elkmaster** » Wed May 04, 2016 7:07 pm

Postby **Ianovich** » Wed May 04, 2016 7:23 pm

Telly Savalas

The Elkmaster · Postby **The Elkmaster** » Wed May 04, 2016 8:23 pm

If your Aunty had got bollocks she'd be your Uncle :OFFS:

Crompton · Postby **Crompton** » Thu May 05, 2016 7:28 am

So what you saying Avit?

slarty · Postby **slarty** » Thu May 05, 2016 7:47 am

The Elkmaster wrote:If your Aunty had got bollocks she'd be your Uncle

Not necessarily, she might have picked them up at a car bollocks sale or summat

Trampas · Postby **Trampas** » Thu May 05, 2016 1:20 pm

Don't have to worry about it now

AVIT75 · Postby **AVIT75** » Thu May 05, 2016 3:31 pm

Crompton wrote:So what you saying Avit?

nobody gives a shit

slarty · Postby **slarty** » Thu May 05, 2016 4:40 pm

Trampas wrote:Don't have to worry about it now

Your last auntie has snuffed it?

viddleodge · Postby **viddleodge** » Thu May 05, 2016 7:43 pm

i thought he meant beglee had moved next door

Trampas · Postby **Trampas** » Thu May 05, 2016 7:52 pm

slarty wrote:
Trampas wrote:Don't have to worry about it now

Your last auntie has snuffed it?

No the ape riding your sister

slarty · Postby **slarty** » Fri May 06, 2016 7:45 am

Ooh I've always wanted a sister so I don't have to buy my own make-up and lbds. So I just look for someone getting ridden by schlocky and that's likely to be her is it?

It's not quite three wise men following a star, but I suppose it'll have to do

AVIT75 · Postby **AVIT75** » Fri May 06, 2016 1:48 pm

your your sister, its just your sister has bollocks

viddleodge · Postby **viddleodge** » Fri May 06, 2016 6:15 pm

i thought she lost them in a bangkok karaoke incident. :hmmm:

AVIT75 · Postby **AVIT75** » Fri May 06, 2016 8:40 pm

slarty wrote:Ooh I've always wanted a sister so I don't have to buy my own make-up and lbds. So I just look for someone getting ridden by schlocky and that's likely to be her is it?

It's not quite three wise men following a star, but I suppose it'll have to do

whats lbds? am i being my usual selfthick :dunno:

slarty · Postby **slarty** » Fri May 06, 2016 8:43 pm

Nope, just disturbing indicators of normality/not admitting to crossdressing :grin:

http://www.littleblackdress.co.uk/

AVIT75 · Postby **AVIT75** » Fri May 06, 2016 8:47 pm

any discount codes going?

viddleodge · Postby **viddleodge** » Sat May 07, 2016 12:21 am

is that where schlocky buys his one-pieces?

viddleodge · Postby **viddleodge** » Sat May 07, 2016 12:22 am

let's ask flip and crompton

slarty · Postby **slarty** » Sat May 07, 2016 12:14 pm

Has Duggie Bull had a caeserian?

As for the other one, I can see why Eddie Izzard turned to rubber minis avec le bump :titter:

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